and then there is obama care, the website in disarray and the other legacy program, immigration reform, now stalled in partisan politics. this was probably not the day president obama would have chosen to speak one-on-one with abc's new partner, fusion. >> good to see ya. >> good to see you, mr. president. >> congratulations on the new venture. >> but speak he did, taking questions on this difficult day. >> people wonder how is it you didn't know about the cell phones being looked at or listened to and why you didn't know and who should have told you? >> i'm not confirming a bunch of assumptions that have been made in the press. but what i have said is that the national security operations general generally, i'm making good decisions and i'm the final user of all of the intelligence they gather. >> such as monitoring the personal cell phone of the german chancellor. >> and the president of the united states of america. >> the one who invited him to speak at the berlin wall just four months ago where he promised american intelligence was not running amuck. >> our current programs are bo